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NOTE: GetWiki 1.0 has been stable for some time now, but the occassional tweaks, fixes and questions do come up. Updating to the latest code will get you the latest enhancements. I hope your wiki's are running smoothly on GetWiki! Check out GetWiki 2.0.

-proteus 12:21, 14 Feb 2005 (EST)


installation queries

What should I set $wgServer to for a local server with the address 192.168.1.2? -Christiaan 14:18, 27 Apr 2005 (EDT)

You can use the machine name on the network, or the LAN IP, but you should leave it set as is, if possible. The setting is used for links and cookies. BTW, "GetStarted" is the default user installed for new databases. -proteus 18:41, 27 Apr 2005 (EDT)


Thanks Proteus. I seem to be having quite a bit of trouble configuring LocalSettings.php for some reason. I've successfully initialised but when I go toweblink I get "Forbidden. You don't have permission to access /getwiki/ on this server." If I go toweblink I get the main page but it isn't rendered with CSS and clicking on any of the links just throws up an error. These are my settings, do you see any obvious problems?


You can leave those settings at defaults. Your problem is with your file permissions, nothing to do with GetWiki, which is just a bunch of files. Make sure your directories (drwxr-xr-x) and files (-rw-r--r--) are CHMOD'ed correctly, so the scripts can access the various files. -proteus 14:45, 28 Apr 2005 (EDT)


Yeah that's what I thought at first but the privileges are fine, and MediaWiki is working just fine in the same directory.�Christiaan 15:30, 28 Apr 2005 (EDT)


I see, then try settings ($wgScriptPath = ""; $wgScript = "{$wgServer}/wiki.php"; and others) to match your MediaWiki installation. Aside from straight URLs and the way GetWiki does cookies and sessions, there is little difference between the two apps at this level. -proteus 09:12, 29 Apr 2005 (EDT)


I have the same problem. My server name isweblink I've installed getwiki into getwiki directory. I can loadweblink but it's not styled and all the links give the 404 error. More than that, I've checked the sourcecode and it seems like I'm getting the following urls:





I haveweblink as my $wgServer but it seems not to catch the /getwiki/ part :( What should I do?


You seem to have settings in LocalSettings that conflict with each other, and you might have directory permissions problems. Note, you really shouldn't have to change any settings in the "key configuration settings" section to make it work. If get those mixed up, then the whole thing can behave very strangely. For example, GetMeta and Wikinfo both have only the wgEmergencyContact and wgLogo changed from defaults in that section. In short, try using LocalSettings just as it is - if that works, then customize the "key site name settings" for your wiki and make sure all directories in your installation have the correct permissions. -proteus 17:09, 6 Mar 2006 (EST)


Proteus, thank you for your answer! I've tried to reupload the whole wiki directory (just changed DB settings in LocalSettings.php) and now I have another problem - my browser suggests me to save wiki.php file. I've checked the permissions and it looks like it's ok with that. What are the exact permission (in numerical format) for getwiki folders and files?


Try 755 for directories, 644 for files. -proteus 12:33, 7 Mar 2006 (EST)
I've followed the instructions onweblink as I understand them, but I get lost at this step: Login with browser to "GetStarted". Where am I meant to point my browser to log in? Pointing to the getwiki directory gives me the directory listing. Pointing to getwiki/wiki.php gives me a blank page. I assume wiki.php is supposed to actually generate some xhtml for me to see, but nothing happens. What could be wrong? (I'm trying getwiki with a new database so i configured LocalSettings.php and imported data/getwiki.sql as instructed.)-Xrchz 03:00, 3 Feb 2006 (EST)

You would log in through the wiki, clicking on "log in". Sounds like your webserver is not cooperating - you could try reuploading the scripts, in case they got corrupted. The software will always output some kind of page... -proteus 14:39, 3 Feb 2006 (EST)


image caption links

Any chance you could code GetWiki so that this sort of image with links in its description would work? FJB 11:48, 10 Sep 2004 (EDT)

missing image!
- Test.jpg -
Article text


Are links like that used anywhere? I'm not sure there's a way around the nested wiki code along with the spaces and commas. Try to move the description with wiki links outside the wiki image code, as below, adding the desired CSS code for design: -proteus 23:31, 10 Sep 2004 (EDT)


missing image!
- Test.jpg -
Article text


Well, yes, one can remove the links in the description, or move the description outside the link to the image. What I would like is for the links to remain in the image and be good. FJB 17:46, 11 Sep 2004 (EDT)


Yes, but it would involve dealing with nested wikicode, as in test1test2test2, so I'd have to figure out the logic of how to parse nested code, given that there will be no regularity of spaces and commas, so the rendering engine would have to be modified. It strikes me as a huge amount of programming to save a small amount of editing, and I'm not sure it would be foolproof for each image link...but I'll look into it... -proteus 22:14, 11 Sep 2004 (EDT)


Finally got around to this, and after many hours of testing (and no, MediWiki's solution did not work), this is now working correctly, and there is a quick tutorial describing how to work with these links. -proteus 20:59, 11 Feb 2005 (EST)

MediaWiki

Are the latest versions of MediaWiki being incorporated into GetWiki?

Only select features are supported. -proteus 00:51, 13 Feb 2005 (EST)

InterWiki revised

I've finally revised the outdated InterWiki Map in GetWiki. You can review the listings. I've added links to sites like W3.org, and Slashdot.org, and removed the dead and questionable links. -proteus 11:59, 4 Mar 2005 (EST)

Examples:
  • (Dictionary:Wiki)
  • (W3:MarkUp/|XHTML)
  • (Bartleby:65/wi/wickiup.html|Wikiup)


edit buttons/characters

You'll have noticed the return of the edit buttons, along with the special characters, at the top of the edit box. These work best in the latest browsers, such as Firefox. I'm aware of where they don't work, or cause problems, like in IE 5.0 on Mac 9.0. There may be a fix later. -proteus 11:59, 4 Mar 2005 (EST)

GO button tweaked

That GO button at the top and bottom of every wiki page will now create new articles for you! As before, if you put in a search query it will take you to the matching article, if it exists. If not, it used to do a full text search for you. Now, instead of the text search, the GO button will show you the edit form so you can quickly create a new article. -proteus 03:27, 7 Mar 2005 (EST)


licensing redux

latest example from the misguided...



Subject: about GetWiki
From: "damjan novak"
Date: Fri, September 22, 2006 9:50 pm
To: "proteus"



remote address:
195-29-116-49.adsl.net.t-com.hr (195.29.116.49)



according to the FSF, GetWiki is indeed in violation of the GPL.



I have sent a mail about your licencing to the FSF's legal department, and they have confirmed that your program is indeed in violation of the GPL.



Out of respect to the FSF and the GPL licence, please stop doing this.



Regards,
D.N.


What GetWiki is doing here "breaks spirit with the GPL", but also breaks federal copyright law. According to the GPL, which is all that gave you the right to use the original version,

"2. You may modify your copy or copies of the Program or any portion of it, thus forming a work based on the Program"
GetWiki did that. Also from the GPL: "and copy and distribute such modifications or work under the terms of Section 1 above, provided that you also meet all of these conditions:

a) You must cause the modified files to carry prominent notices stating that you changed the files and the date of any change."
I'm sure it did that.

"b) You must cause any work that you distribute or publish, that in whole or in part contains or is derived from the Program or any part thereof, to be licensed as a whole at no charge to all third parties under the terms of this License."
The entirety of GetWiki is not under the GPL. It is however, "in part ... derived from the Program" and it "contains ... the Program or any part thereof". Therefore, it have not followed the terms of the license and GetWiki is violating copyright law.

Finally, just to combat the idea of sepearate files meaning separate product:

"These requirements apply to the modified work as a whole."
This is a key line from the GPL. Not only the origninal set of files but all of GetWiki. I will recommend that the Wikimedia Foundation sue to force GetWiki to license under the GPL. The line in the current article stating, "there is no prevention of developers, such as those making up MediaWiki Development, from taking GetWiki and incorporating the changes and improvements into their application." is simply untrue. MediaWiki is GPL licensed. The GPL does not allow the "Noncommercial" restriction. Superm401 11:14, 13 Feb 2005 (EST)

...And I thought you Wikipedians didn't care about GetWiki anymore :)
The applicable lines of GetWiki's README:


* MediaWiki 1.1.0 was released under GPL
* Files marked "CCL" (ie. "getwiki.php"), images | Attribution-NonCommercial 1.0 weblink
* "README" | Attribution-NonCommercial-ShareAlike 1.0 weblink
* All other PHP, XML, XHTML, CSS, and JavaScript released as GetWiki 1.0 under terms of GPL (by requirement)
* "getwiki.php", "formula.php", other new files, new images and CSS, my edits and this README are (c) 2004 M.R.M. Parrott
* Any and all non-commercial use in MediaWiki by The Wikimedia Foundation Inc. encouraged


The "GPL spirit" is a virus, itself breaking with federal and international copyright law, and that is what is being avoided and challenged in GetWiki. Yet, clause (b) you quoted above has actually not been clearly violated, and even if it were, there is no rational avenue of legal remedy. As any pre-law sophomore can see, you don't have a leg to stand on. -proteus 13:19, 13 Feb 2005 (EST)

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