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{{short description|Medieval Jewish-Christian debate}}The Disputation of Barcelona (July 20–24, 1263) was a formal ordered medieval debate between representatives of Christianity and Judaism regarding whether or not Jesus was the Messiah. It was held at the royal palace of King James I of Aragon in the presence of the King, his court, and many prominent ecclesiastical dignitaries and knights, between Dominican Friar Pablo Christiani, a convert from Judaism to Christianity, and Nachmanides (Moshe Ben Nachman), a leading medieval Jewish scholar, philosopher, physician, kabbalist, and biblical commentator.During the Middle Ages, there were numerous ordered disputations between Christians and Jews.BOOK, Richard Gottheil, Kaufmann Kohler, Disputations,weblink Jewish Encyclopedia, 1906, 9 February 2015, WEB, Ben-Sasson, Haim Hillel, Disputations and Polemics,weblink jewishvirtuallibrary.org, The Gale Group, 9 February 2015, They were connected with burnings of the Talmud at the stake and violence against Jews.WEB, The 13th-Century Disputations,weblink jewishvirtuallibrary.org, American-Israeli Cooperative Enterprise & Encyclopaedia Judaica (The Gale Group), 9 February 2015, At Barcelona, Jews as well as Christians were given absolute freedom to speak their arguments how they wanted, making this unique among disputations.WEB, Disputation of Barcelona,weblink jewishvirtuallibrary.org, American-Israeli Cooperative Enterprise & Encyclopaedia Judaica (The Gale Group), 9 February 2015,

Overture

The ordered disputation was organized by Raymond de Penyafort, the superior of Christiani and the confessor of James I. Christiani had been preaching to the Jews of Provence. Relying upon the reserve his adversary would be forced to maintain through fear of incurring the wrath of the Christian dignitaries, Christiani assured the King that he could prove the truth of Christianity from the Talmud and other rabbinical writings. Nachmanides complied with the order of the King, but stipulated that complete freedom of speech should be granted.The disputation took place in front of the royal court of King James of Aragon (1263), who guaranteed and asserted freedom of speech for the Jewish spokesperson Nachmanides. This led to a genuine confrontation between Christianity and Judaism in which the true fundamental differences between the two religions could be brought to light.BOOK, Maccoby, Hyam, Judaism on trial: Jewish-Christian disputations in the Middle Ages, 1993, Littman Library of Jewish Civilization, London, 978-1874774167, Pbk.,

Proceedings

The debate turned on the following questions:Disputations (Jewish Encyclopedia, 1906 ed.)
  1. whether the Messiah had appeared or not
  2. whether, according to Scripture, the Messiah is a divine or a human being
  3. whether the Jews or the Christians held the true faith.

Had the Messiah appeared

Based upon several aggadic passages, Christiani argued that Pharisaic sages believed that the Messiah had lived during the Talmudic period, and that they must therefore have believed that the Messiah was Jesus.Nachmanides countered that Christiani's interpretations of Talmudic passages were per-se distortions; the rabbis would not hint that Jesus was the Messiah while, at the same time, explicitly opposing him as such:"Does he mean to say that the sages of the Talmud believed in Jesus as the messiah and believed that he is both human and divine, as held by the Christians? However, it is well known that the incident of Jesus took place during the period of the Second Temple. He was born and killed prior to the destruction of the Temple, while the sages of the Talmud, like R. Akiba and his associates, followed this destruction. Those who compiled the Mishnah, Rabbi and R. Nathan, lived many years after the destruction. All the more so R. Ashi who compiled the Talmud, who lived about four hundred years after the destruction. If these sages believed that Jesus was the messiah and that his faith and religion were true and if they wrote these things from which Friar Paul intends to prove this, then how did they remain in the Jewish faith and in their former practice? For they were Jews, remained in the Jewish faith all their lives, and died Jews - they and their children and their students who heard their teachings. Why did they not convert and turn to the faith of Jesus, as Friar Paul did? ... If these sages believed in Jesus and in his faith, how is it that they did not do as Friar Paul, who understands their teachings better than they themselves do?"The Disputation of Barcelona (1263) {{webarchive|url=https://web.archive.org/web/20060907082559weblink |date=2006-09-07 }}. Report of Moses Nahmanides, translated from Hebrew, and Anonymous Report, translated from Latin. (medspains.stanford.edu)Nachmanides noted that prophetic promises of the Messianic Age, a reign of universal peace and justice had not yet been fulfilled. Nachmanides also argued that since the appearance of Jesus of Nazareth, the world had still been filled with violence and injustice, and among all religions, he claimed that the Christians were the most warlike. He asserted that questions of the Messiah are of less dogmatic importance to Jews than most Christians imagine, because it is more meritorious for the Jews to observe the precepts of the Torah under a Christian ruler, while in exile and suffering humiliation and abuse, than under the rule of the Messiah, when every one would perforce act in accordance with the Law.

Is the Messiah a divine or a human being

Nachmanides demonstrated from numerous biblical and Talmudic sources that traditional (rabbinic) Jewish belief ran contrary to Christiani's postulates, and showed that the Biblical prophets regarded the future messiah as a human, a person of flesh and blood, without ascribing him divine attributes."[... it seems most strange that... ] the Creator of Heaven and Earth resorted to the womb of a certain Jewish lady, grew there for nine months and was born as an infant, and afterwards grew up and was betrayed into the hands of his enemies who sentenced him to death and executed him, and that afterwards... he came to life and returned to his original place. The mind of a Jew, or any other person, simply cannot tolerate these assertions. If you have listened all your life to the priests who have filled your brain and the marrow of your bones with this doctrine, and it has settled into you because of that accustomed habit. [I would argue that if you were hearing these ideas for the first time, now, as a grown adult], you would never have accepted them."BOOK, The Disputation at Barcelona, 0-88328-025-6, 19, According to a report by Nachmanides,Friar Paul claimed: "Behold the passage in Isaiah, chapter 53, tells of the death of the messiah and how he was to fall into the hands of his enemies and how he was placed alongside the wicked, as happened to Jesus. Do you believe that this section speaks of the messiah?I said to him: "In terms of the true meaning of the section, it speaks only of the people of Israel, which the prophets regularly call 'Israel My servant' or 'Jacob My servant.'"

Conclusion

The Jewish residents of Barcelona, fearing the resentment of the Dominicans, entreated him to discontinue; but the King, whom Nachmanides had acquainted with the apprehensions of the Jews, desired him to proceed. At the end of the disputation, James I awarded Nachmanides a prize of 300 gold coins and declared that never before had he heard "an unjust cause so nobly defended."Slater, Elinor & Robert (1999): Great Moments in Jewish History. Jonathan David Company, Inc. {{ISBN|0-8246-0408-3}}. p.168 On the Shabbat after the debate, the king also attended the Sinagoga Major de Barcelona, arguably one of the oldest synagogues in Europe,WEB,weblink Beautiful Barcelona and its Jews of today and long ago, December 8, 2008, Leviant, Curt, Erika Pfeifer Leviant, September 18, 2008, New Jersey Jewish News,weblink" title="web.archive.org/web/20081120215801weblink">weblink 20 November 2008, yes, dmy-all, WEB,weblink The Golden Age returns, December 10, 2008, Katz, Marisa S., September 14, 2006, The Jerusalem Post, and addressed the Jewish congregants there, "a thing unheard of during the Middle Ages".BOOK,weblink 171, Wein, Berel, Herald of Destiny: The story of the Jews in the Medieval Era 750–1650, 1993, Shaar Press,

Aftermath

Since the Dominicans claimed victory, Nachmanides left Aragon never to return again and in 1267 he settled in Palestine. There he founded a synagogue in the Old City of Jerusalem, the Ramban Synagogue.The Ramban Synagogue; Hope Amidst Despair by Larry Domnitch (The Jewish Magazine) It is the oldest synagogue in Jerusalem.In August 1263, James I ordered the removal of passages deemed offensive from the Talmud.BOOK,weblink Encyclopedia Judaica - Barcelona, Disputation of, 2007, Michael Berenbaum and Fred Skolnik. Vol. 3. 2nd ed, Gale Virtual Reference Library, Detroit: Macmillan Reference USA, 146, 14 January 2014, BOOK,weblink Jewish Encyclopedia - Censorship of Hebrew Books, 1906, 31 October 2014, The committee assigned to carry out this censorship consisted of Bishop of Barcelona Arnoldo de Guerbo, Raymond de Penyafort, and the Dominicans Arnoldo de Legarra, Pedro de Janua and Ramón Martí (author of Pugio Fidei).The event was the inspiration for Hyam Maccoby's play, The Disputation. This was dramatized for television in 1986 by Channel 4, starring Christopher Lee, Bob Peck and Alan Dobie.The Disputation at IMDb; retrieved 22 June 2017

See also

References

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Further reading

  • Nahmanides, Charles Chavel (Translator): Disputation at Barcelona (Ramban). Shilo Publishing House (NY) (January 1983) {{ISBN|0-88328-025-6}}, {{ISBN|978-0-88328-025-6}}
  • Hyam Maccoby, Judaism on Trial (1981, Littman Library of Jewish Civilisation)
    • same, The Disputation, a play
  • The Disputation of Barcelona (1263) by Cecil Roth. The Harvard Theological Review, Vol. 43, No. 2 (Apr., 1950), pp. 117–144
  • The Barcelona "Disputation" of 1263: Christian Missionizing and Jewish Response by Robert Chazan. Speculum, Vol. 52, No. 4 (Oct., 1977), pp. 824–842 {{doi|10.2307/2855376}}
  • weblink" title="web.archive.org/web/20060907082559weblink">Comparison of the Hebrew Report of Moses Nahmanides and the Anonymous Latin Report {{Dead link|date=September 2015}}
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